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Faunus
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[b]What floats our boat or sinks it?[/b]
Horsefriend wrote:
Faunus wrote:
Nearly all skeptics will say that any version of an "after life" is merely psychological feel-goodie-stuff because physical death is the most dreaded human fear. They repeat that phrase over and over again like a worn-out mantra. However, there are millions of theists and atheists around the globe who believe in rebirth for their own reasons, but sincerely wish this rebirthing did not occur! They would love to have all versions of an afterlife cease. Practicing Buddhists by the millions are a prime example, as are many Hindus. I know people who believe that there is a "God", but strongly feel that "he" is so inept, powerless, or not all loving that "he" doesn't deserve any praise or adoration whatsoever. The refuse to give any, but nevertheless they are theists!

The skeptics need to get their heads out of the small belief boxes encapsulating it, and get the Bigger Picture. However, they obviously feel the same security with their false beliefs and absolutes that many theists do. It's their own chosen dogma engendering psychological-feel-goodie-stuff of a different flavour.

End of rant.


I want to die more than I want almost anything else, but I believe in life after death. I need proof to believe anything at all, but I really think I have it in this case. To see lost loved ones again is one of my deepest desires, but sometimes I think I'd rather just cease to exist.


I think many people need to clarify whether they want to "end their life" or physical existence, or whether they inwardly really mean to terminate their entanglement with outer circumstances, and look at unexamined inner beliefs and attitudes that makes their life suck. My youngest sister ended her physical existence through suicide, and I have the deepest intuition that she just really wanted all of the emotional pain to end, and the circumstances that she felt no control over that kept her feeling without any joy in existence. She was not in touch with inner and outer resources, but didn't look for them either.

I don't look for joy in existence. I create it, and All That Is co-creates it back with me. And I also know that love is not something you have to go looking for if that's where you are coming from.

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panthera
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 Auroville seems amazing! Surprised
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Horsefriend
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[b]What floats our boat or sinks it?[/b]
Faunus wrote:
I think many people need to clarify whether they want to "end their life" or physical existence, or whether they inwardly really mean to terminate their entanglement with outer circumstances, and look at unexamined inner beliefs and attitudes that makes their life suck. My youngest sister ended her physical existence through suicide, and I have the deepest intuition that she just really wanted all of the emotional pain to end, and the circumstances that she felt no control over that kept her feeling without any joy in existence. She was not in touch with inner and outer resources, but didn't look for them either.

I don't look for joy in existence. I create it, and All That Is co-creates it back with me. And I also know that love is not something you have to go looking for if that's where you are coming from.


I'm not going to kill myself. My life is about helping others, so I'll endure the pain of living until I grow old and die. I don't think there is much left about my mind that I haven't already examined. All that really pleases me is being with those I love. I'm not looking to be loved though. Love to me is about doing everything I possibly can to give that person the best possible life. Trying to make every moment a good one. Always putting them before myself. Saving every penny I earn (or find) to use for helping others, rather than spending it on myself. If only I made more money.
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Horsefriend
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 I'm considering going back to college for a degree in environmental engineering. It sounds interesting. As far as I can tell I'd be helping out the environment and making lots of money to do lots of good things with. I'm still looking into it.
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Faunus
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Horsefriend wrote:
I'm considering going back to college for a degree in environmental engineering. It sounds interesting. As far as I can tell I'd be helping out the environment and making lots of money to do lots of good things with. I'm still looking into it.


Horsefriend, please share with us what "environmental engineering" is. I'll bet that Panthera knows. Wink

I don't know if "What Color Is Your Parachute?" is still being published. It is all about what an individual needs to know before they consider choosing a career, or switching it. I have several copies of it as it was updated throughout the years, and plenty of wisdom being added. There were great cartoons throughout the books too, like the one that referred to 'transferable skills' when you do a career switch. One cartoon went something like this:

A 40-ish year old woman is in an interview with a conservative-looking executive type sitting behind a large desk in a corporate office. Glaring at her, he says, "I see on your resume that you have spent the past 20 + years raising 5 children, working a part time job, and putting them all through college. Umm, but when was the last time you really worked for a living?"

"In the old days", career choice was about "what are you good at doing", and left it at that. Umm, sorry, wrong century. It completely disregarded the individual's interests, values, preferred lifestyle, and numerous other factors. The book emphasised not asking the question, "What do I want to do for a living"; it asked you to answer the question to yourself, "What do I want out of my life".

The books were also written and re-written during times when there was no global economic crisis. Nonetheless, I still find great wisdom in what was printed! And I didn't find it surprising when the author gave the statistics that around 75% of the people polled who had a degree in their field, admitted that they chose the wrong field of work. This was in the U.S.

May I suggest that you interview at least a minimum of 5 people actually working in environmental engineering - before you possibly waste money, time, and energy funding a college or university? What will you get in return? Have your own list of "give me the facts" questions, graciously asked, of course. Had I done that before I spent thousands of dollars and lots of time for an education working in the medical and other other unrelated fields ...

But I always returned to horticulture, with all of its 'trade offs' from other professions that had their pluses and minuses. I personally have found that the most significant exploration into the career question begins not with outer explorations,; it begins with inner questions about the self's deepest interests, values, and intentions. From that comes broadcasting that clarified intention multidimensionally, and then everything else seems to fall into place.

Don't be shy about asking me where I screwed up and where I continue to do so. My posting may be too numerous. I recall working at a petrol station in my teens, and five years later I was a surgical nurse - only because I intended to be one. I wanted to experience the blood and guts of healing a human body. I learned quickly that the so called "healing profession" was just another capitalistic con job run by people who had their focus only on financial profit. I went from that do doing other things including interpreting for Deaf people, and somehow ended-up on the TV as one of those visual inserts in the lower right or left part of the screen. And a call for me to help with a fund-raising got my ass onto a piano stool, and everything fell into place that I performed Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue" to raise money for a local charity. I directed all of my piano training into that single event, and it was a success. But time and the natural aging process of my body no longer permits me to perform on the piano.

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Horsefriend
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 I'll reply to this tomorrow. I'm really tired after work today and I'm already stuck writing a big response. I really didn't want to be on the computer for long. Plus my head is all weird and I've got a terrible sore throat.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:14 am
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Horsefriend
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 From www.bls.gov:

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Environmental engineers use the principles of biology and chemistry to develop solutions to environmental problems. They are involved in water and air pollution control, recycling, waste disposal, and public health issues. Environmental engineers conduct hazardous-waste management studies in which they evaluate the significance of the hazard, advise on its treatment and containment, and develop regulations to prevent mishaps. They design municipal water supply and industrial wastewater treatment systems, conduct research on the environmental impact of proposed construction projects, analyze scientific data, and perform quality-control checks. Environmental engineers are concerned with local and worldwide environmental issues. Some may study and attempt to minimize the effects of acid rain, global warming, automobile emissions, and ozone depletion. They also may be involved in the protection of wildlife. Many environmental engineers work as consultants, helping their clients to comply with regulations, prevent environmental damage, and clean up hazardous sites.


Engineers solve problems using a lot of math and equations. I am really interested in problem solving (thinking outside of the box type stuff) and I enjoyed solving equations in chemistry. I've always wanted to help the environment. Luckily some relatives are engineers so I can talk to them. I'm going to talk to some people at the college too. Thanks for the advice Faunus. I have indeed lost a lot of money spent on education and I'm going to be careful this time. You've had an interesting set of careers! I've tried out a few things before losing interest. I need to be doing something that I consider worthwhile.
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Geoff
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Faunus wrote:
I learned quickly that the so called "healing profession" was just another capitalistic con job run by people who had their focus only on financial profit.
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What a ridiculous generalisation.
I've worked as an ambulance driver, hospital wardsman and in operating theatres and found absolutely no evidence of 'capitalistic con jobs.' I and my co-workers were there because we wanted to help others (It certainly wasn't the pay!) and it was most rewarding, in the sense that one could go home knowing that one had made a real difference in someone's life.
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