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Pigs castrated without anaesthesia !
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aplrt
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 Pigs castrated without anaesthesia !
Please sign petition !

Piglets in Sweden are castrated without anaesthesia ! 4000 piglets are castrated per day and suffer this enormous pain, simply because the agriculture minister of Sweden, Eskil Erlandsson, wants to keep the price of meat down. They do not give the pigs painkillers because it would cost 2 euros per piglet ! It's not enough that they are raising the pigs to be slaughtered, they can't even, at the very minimum, try to provide them with a painfree life.

Please sign this petition

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-the-castration-of-pigs-without-anaesthesia

and even send a personalized mail to Eskil Erlandsson (through his main contact page, found on any search engine) and tell him that they need to change the laws in Sweden. Not using painkillers is sadly enough considered "normal" in some countries, but Norway banned the procedure in 2002. Sweden must learn a lesson in humanity from their neighbouring country !

You can also join the Facebook group "Stop castrating pigs without anaesthesia"

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=app_2373072738&ref=search&gid=228185528029#/group.php?v=wall&ref=search&gid=228185528029

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:47 pm
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Geoff
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This probably happens worldwide. It certainly does in Australia.
It is also perfectly legal here for anyone (ie - not a vet) to spay a cow:

From Animal Liberation:
"In northern Australia in particular, where fences are poor and there may be feral bulls, graziers remove the ovaries of female cattle to stop them becoming pregnant. The cows that are spayed are ones due to be sold off for slaughter, and graziers believe that spayed cows will gain more weight and be fatter.

In the case of cats and dogs, only a qualified vet may carry out the spaying operation, and it will be done under anaesthetic. In the case of cattle, it may be done without anaesthetic, and by a person who is not a vet. An exception is in NSW, where spaying must be done by a vet using anaesthetic.

Most commonly a cut is made in the flank of the cow, and the operator inserts his hand through the cut to remove the ovaries. The pain of this abdominal surgery without any pain relief is hard to imagine. Some cows die. " ... mortality can exceed 5% even with good operators. The trauma experienced by the animal also results in a physical setback and 2-3 months growth can be lost "
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:03 pm
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A professor who taught animal science at college claimed that castration doesn't hurt at all. I don't think any of us men believed him. Actually I don't think any of the women believed him either.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:16 pm
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aplrt
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Unfortunately castration without anaesthesia does occur in some countries, simply due to economical factors. But considering the high price these animals are paying, this is a cost that should, at the very minimum, be mandatory. There is obviously no way of changing the laws of all these countries in one step, but I hope that we can start with Sweden, and I hope that those of you who read this post do sign the petition, as it will be passed on to the right person in charge.

That a professor, on the other hand, claims that castration is not painful... I would like to know what he has based this assumption on, and I wonder if he would say the same if it was performed on him. He should perhaps read this article in sciencedirect, entitled "Assessment of pain induced by castration in piglets: behavioral and physiological responses over the subsequent 5 days". There is strong evidence that castration is (obviously) extremely painful and that this pain or discomfort can last for many days ! Giving local anaesthesia before the castration reduces the pain, although there will still be some discomfort from the injection itself.

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Geoff wrote:
Most commonly a cut is made in the flank of the cow, and the operator inserts his hand through the cut to remove the ovaries. The pain of this abdominal surgery without any pain relief is hard to imagine. Some cows die. " ... mortality can exceed 5% even with good operators. The trauma experienced by the animal also results in a physical setback and 2-3 months growth can be lost "


Holy ****! 2-3 months growth can be lost?! That's way too much to risk. (heavy sarcasm)

I cannot imagine how people can think this is OK. And they must have some really good restraining techniques. Evil or Very Mad
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Geoff
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panthera wrote:

I cannot imagine how people can think this is OK. And they must have some really good restraining techniques. Evil or Very Mad


I couldn't believe it when I first heard about this practice so I went to the Department of Primary Industries in Brisbane and looked it up in their library and found it to be true.
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Piglets in Sweden are castrated without anaesthesia ! 4000 piglets are castrated per day and suffer this enormous pain, simply because the agriculture minister of Sweden, Eskil Erlandsson, wants to keep the price of meat down. They do not give the pigs painkillers because it would cost 2 euros per piglet ! It's not enough that they are raising the pigs to be slaughtered, they can't even, at the very minimum, try to provide them with a painfree life.
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teddy bear
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Markia001 wrote:
It's not enough that they are raising the pigs to be slaughtered, they can't even, at the very minimum, try to provide them with a painfree life.


In fact, it's enough that they will be slaughtered.

Should you ban the castration without anesthetics in Sweden, people will then have their conscience eased, the industry in Sweden will suffer a minor setback, because 2 Euros is not a small price to pay, especially if you have an operation with 10000-50000 animals. So the supermarkets will continue buying cheaper meat from countries that do not use pain-killers, and there will be more consumers eating meat. Sweden, like other countries, needs some vegan outreach and abolitionist campaigns, if animals are ever to have any peace.
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aplrt
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teddy bear wrote:
Markia001 wrote:
It's not enough that they are raising the pigs to be slaughtered, they can't even, at the very minimum, try to provide them with a painfree life.


In fact, it's enough that they will be slaughtered.

Should you ban the castration without anesthetics in Sweden, people will then have their conscience eased, the industry in Sweden will suffer a minor setback, because 2 Euros is not a small price to pay, especially if you have an operation with 10000-50000 animals. So the supermarkets will continue buying cheaper meat from countries that do not use pain-killers, and there will be more consumers eating meat. Sweden, like other countries, needs some vegan outreach and abolitionist campaigns, if animals are ever to have any peace.


Well, I don't care about the consumers' conscience, I care about the pigs. For a long time to come, people will still insist upon killing animals for food. If we can't prevent their death, we can at the very least improve their lives. Right now, Swedish pork is the cheapest pork out on the market here (and if I remember correctly, it's even the cheapest in Europe). Sweden was forced to cut off their export to Germany, because Germany chose to ban this procedure (which is the reason why Denmark banned it as well, in order to keep the market open), so the extra expenses would be paid off by a new or re-opened market. According to EU animal welfare legislation, animals are not permitted to suffer, atleast not more than "necessary" (wondering where one draws that boundary) - castrating them without anaesthesia is clearly a violation of their own legislation, and this is a problem that they are (!) aware of. The Agriculture Department started a project to find alternatives, besides using anaesthesia, so they are actually trying to resolve the issue. The problem is, they started this project in 2008 and they're still waiting for results, i.e. it's not of priority. We need to make (!) it a priority. They are waiting for some results, due sometime in april, and the petition will be closed in order to hand in the signatures around the same time, so please make sure you sign by then !

On that note, immunocastration has been permitted in Sweden for some time now, but it has not been legally re-inforced because they're afraid that the consumers will not want to buy meat from vaccinated pigs (better if they buy it from tortured pigs).

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aplrt wrote:
teddy bear wrote:
Markia001 wrote:
It's not enough that they are raising the pigs to be slaughtered, they can't even, at the very minimum, try to provide them with a painfree life.


In fact, it's enough that they will be slaughtered.

Should you ban the castration without anesthetics in Sweden, people will then have their conscience eased, the industry in Sweden will suffer a minor setback, because 2 Euros is not a small price to pay, especially if you have an operation with 10000-50000 animals. So the supermarkets will continue buying cheaper meat from countries that do not use pain-killers, and there will be more consumers eating meat. Sweden, like other countries, needs some vegan outreach and abolitionist campaigns, if animals are ever to have any peace.


Well, I don't care about the consumers' conscience, I care about the pigs. For a long time to come, people will still insist upon killing animals for food. If we can't prevent their death, we can at the very least improve their lives. Right now, Swedish pork is the cheapest pork out on the market here (and if I remember correctly, it's even the cheapest in Europe). Sweden was forced to cut off their export to Germany, because Germany chose to ban this procedure (which is the reason why Denmark banned it as well, in order to keep the market open), so the extra expenses would be paid off by a new or re-opened market. According to EU animal welfare legislation, animals are not permitted to suffer, atleast not more than "necessary" (wondering where one draws that boundary) - castrating them without anaesthesia is clearly a violation of their own legislation, and this is a problem that they are (!) aware of. The Agriculture Department started a project to find alternatives, besides using anaesthesia, so they are actually trying to resolve the issue. The problem is, they started this project in 2008 and they're still waiting for results, i.e. it's not of priority. We need to make (!) it a priority. They are waiting for some results, due sometime in april, and the petition will be closed in order to hand in the signatures around the same time, so please make sure you sign by then !

On that note, immunocastration has been permitted in Sweden for some time now, but it has not been legally re-inforced because they're afraid that the consumers will not want to buy meat from vaccinated pigs (better if they buy it from tortured pigs).


Be it as it may, I don't know how you will be able to ban the import of cheap meat from other countries. The rules of the WTO are pretty strict. Just look how challenging it is to ban the sale of seal fur. The emphasis of campaigns should be on changing habits of people, not the habits of the industry.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:14 am
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aplrt
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I fully understand your point, but they will import cheap meat either way. The aim is not that Sweden (!) stops castrating piglets without anaesthesia, the aim is that ALL countries stop it - once this petition is over, I intend to start a new one directed to the EU (they've been involved with this for some time now, e.g. with their PIGCAS project, but their solution so far has been to ban castration without anaesthesia on piglets older than 7 days). Obviously I'm a vegan and I promote veganism in any way I can (as, for example, through the petition description), but how much difference would it make if I start a campaign for shutting down all factory farming, that's to say, how likely is it to succeed ? The problem with our "modern" society is that using animals for profit is too deeply rooted, that people don't see or want to understand that it's wrong. It's nothing that we will be able to change over night or with one campaign.

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